Episode
Adopted by: MikeKraken Additional
info provided
by: Alan Mercer and Brian Greene
Synopsis:
In what
seems like a cross between Geraldo and
the X-Files (featuring Jerry Hardin from the X-Files!), Sam leaps into
a TV reporter who, when challenged by a co-worker to do just one real
investigative piece, discovers a secret chemical weapons plant hidden
inside a local corporation. But the company will do anything to keep
it's secret - even murder.
TV Guide
Synopsis: Sam
(Scott Bakula) reports as the host of a tabloid talk show, and he
sniffs out a dangerous story with another reporter (DeLane Matthews).
Earl: Alan Oppenheimer. Saxton: Jerry Hardin. Tim: Michael Heintzman.
Rick Upfield: Marcus Giamatti. Gruel: Don Gibb. Foreman: Victor
Talmadge. Esther: Barbara Tarbuck. Al: Dean Stockwell.
Project Quantum Leap will be in existence close to Destiny in seven
years (thirty
miles from where Sam and Jenny interview Red Norton, who saw "aliens",
at Blue Rock and Whispering Pine Lake).
At the beginning of Project Quantum Leap, they used swipe cards as
keypasses to open doors, before using "electronic implants".
Al's Women: Al offers to pick
out lingerie for Jani.
Al's Outfits
Worn in the Episode:
First and second appearances: Cream pants; matching cream suede
jacket; golden-yellow dress shirt; golden thin tie; small, round amulet
on the jacket's left breast; unlit cigar.
Third and fourth appearances: Blue suit coat with green tintings;
white dress shirt; emerald tie; small, rectangular, silver amulet on
coat's left breast; blue dress pants.
Fifth and sixth appearances: Red suit coat; red-patterned dress
shirt; small, circular amulet on left breast; red thin tie; unlit
cigar; red dress pants; black dress shoes.
Seventh appearance: Purple dress shirt; black thin tie with white
spots; purple-patterened vest; lit cigar; black dress pants; black belt
with gold buckle.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger appears as a guest, playing herself.
Probably the first episode that we see a desktop computer on the show.
Near
the beginning of the
episode, Sam is talking to somebody in the television studio, and up in
the corner on the television monitors, you can actually see (for a
split-second!) the King Thunder music video from "Glitter Rock" playing on one of the
screens!
On the
Blu-ray release in the U.S., the chapter setting jumps past the opening
credits unusually. The first chapter jump usually jumps to a point just
after the opening theme song.
Bloopers:
Kiss
With History:
This episode is inspired by the tabloid talk show, "Geraldo."
It was an American daytime television tabloid talk
show hosted by Geraldo Rivera that aired
in syndication from September 7, 1987, to June 12, 1998. The
last two seasons aired under the title The Geraldo Rivera Show.
Regular Cast:
Scott Bakula as Sam Beckett
Dean Stockwell as Al Calavicci
Guest Stars:
DeLane Matthews as Jani Eisenberg
Alan Oppenheimer as Earl Skinner
Jerry Hardin as Ed Saxton
Michael Heintzman as Tim
Marcus Giamatti as Rick Upfield
Donald Gibb (as Don Gibb) as Jeeters
Barbara Tarbuck as Esther
Dr. Laura Schlessinger as Herself
Charles Dougherty as Man
with Glasses
Dennis Fimple as Red
Norton
Victor Talmadge as Foreman/Hank
Sherri Lynn Rothman as Dawn
Gregg Binkley as Deputy
Paul-Felix Montez as Ernesto
Andrew Roa as Roberto Gutierrez (Leapee on studio camera)
DeLane Matthews as Jani Eisenberg: DeLane
Matthews was born on August 7, 1961 in Rockledge, Florida, USA. She is
an actress and writer, known for A Way Back In (2010), Evasive Action
(1998) and General Hospital (1963). She has been married to Lennie
Loftin since October 27, 2009. She was previously married to Tyrone
Power Jr..
Alan Oppenheimer as Earl Skinner: Alan
Oppenheimer is an American actor from New York City, who started his
career in the 1950s. By the 1970s, Oppenheimer started performing voice
acting roles. He eventually emerged as one of the most prolific voice
actors in the United States, with roles in numerous series and films.
His better known roles include the evil emperor Ming the Merciless in
"The New Adventures of Flash Gordon" (1979-1982), the tyrant Overlord
and his mind-controlling Vizier in "Blackstar" (1981), the arrogant
narcissist Vanity Smurf in "The Smurfs" (1981-1989), the evil sorcerer
Skeletor, the shape-shifting animal Cringer, the heroic Man-at-Arms,
and the aquatic villain Mer-Man in "He-Man and the Masters of the
Universe" (1983-1985), the pacifistic naturalist Beachcomber, the
sailor Seaspray, and the gun-enthusiast and munitions expert Warpath in
"The Transformers" (1984-1987), the android wizard Prime Evil in
"Ghostbusters" (1986), and the cryptic advisor Merlin in "The Legend of
Prince Valiant" (1991-1993). In 1930, Oppenheimer was born in New York
City. His father was the stockbroker Louis Oppenheimer. In 1958,
Oppenheimer married costume designer Marianna Elliott. They had three
children. He received a divorce at some point prior to the mid-1980s.
In 1984, Oppenheimer married the professional tennis player Marilyn
Greenwood. Their marriage lasted less than a decade, and ended in a
divorce. In 1992, Oppenheimer re-married his first wife Marianna
Elliott. Their marriage lasted until her death in 2003. He has remained
single since her death. In 1993, Oppenheimer had a guest star role in
"Star Trek: The Next Generation". He played the Klingon cleric Koroth.
His character cloned the long-dead messianic warrior Kahless, in hope
of restoring his peoples' faith in their religion.In 1994, Oppenheimer
played the ill-fated star-ship captain Keogh in "Star Trek: Deep Space
Nine". After successfully completing a rescue mission, Keogh fell
victim to a suicide attack (along with most of his crew). In 1997,
Oppenheimer played an unnamed ambassador of the Nezu in "Star Trek:
Voyager". His character attempted to enlist the USS Voyager to rescue
his planet from destruction. This was Oppenheimer's last role in a
"Star Trek" television series. Oppenheimer has mostly avoided
live-action roles since 1998. In 2022, Oppenheimer voiced Skeletor
again for an appearance in the film "Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers". By
2022, Oppenheimer was 92-years-old. He has never fully retired, though
he has played less prominent roles in recent productions. He remains
popular to animation fans for his iconic roles in several classic
series.
Jerry Hardin as Ed Saxton: A
highly engaging, charismatic, and reliable character actor with a long
and distinguished career spanning half a century, Jerry Hardin has been
gracing both the big and small screen, and stage, with many enjoyable
performances, highlighted by a relaxed and pleasing Southern twang.
Born November 20, 1929, in Dallas, Texas, where his father was a
rancher, Hardin was raised outside the city, where he first began
acting in school productions. This would lead to a scholarship to
Southwestern University in Georgetown, Texas, and a Fulbright
scholarship to the Royal Academy for Dramatic Art in London. He had his
first (uncredited) film role in the classic drive-in flick, Thunder
Road (1958), starring Robert Mitchum, and, by 1961, had racked up an
impressive amount of over 75 theatre credits. He became incredibly
prolific in the 1970s, when his film career really took off, and he
also started appearing regularly on TV series, including Gunsmoke
(1955), Starsky and Hutch (1975), The Streets of San Francisco (1972),
Little House on the Prairie (1974), The Rockford Files (1974), Miami
Vice (1984), L.A. Law (1986), Melrose Place (1992), Murder, She Wrote
(1984) and Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman (1993). A particularly memorable
performance, by Mr. Hardin in this medium, was that of Mark Twain in
episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987). He would also prove
to be in high demand for film roles, appearing in the likes of Wolf
Lake (1979), Heartland (1979), 1941 (1979), Honky Tonk Freeway (1981),
Reds (1981), Missing (1982), Honkytonk Man (1982), Cujo (1983), The
Falcon and the Snowman (1985), Warning Sign (1985), Big Trouble in
Little China (1986), Wanted: Dead or Alive (1986), The Hot Spot (1990),
The Firm (1993), Ghosts of Mississippi (1996), Hidalgo (2004) and Are
We There Yet? (2005). His performance as one of the subtly sinister
senior partners in The Firm (1993) impressed The X-Files (1993) creator
Chris Carter enough that Carter would create the character of "Deep
Throat" with him in mind, and it's this role that is definitely one of
Hardin's most famous. A noteworthy stage performance of his was in the
play, "The Rainmaker", working alongside Jayne Atkinson, Woody
Harrelson and David Aaron Baker.
Michael Heintzman as Tim: Michael
Heintzman was born in Bismarck, North Dakota, USA. He is known for A
Dog Year (2009), Quantum Leap (1989) and Me and the Boys (1994). He has
been married to Patti Pelican since 1992.
Marcus Giamatti as Rick Upfield: Marcus is best known for the role of "Peter Gray", on the long-running CBS drama Judging Amy (1999). Marcus
is also an accomplished, professional bass guitarist, playing in
several bands in Los Angeles, including the alternative country artist
Olivea Watson (2007 Gibson Artist Of The Year). Marcus is also a
session musician, and a member of Musician's Local 47. His
extensive theater credits include stints on Broadway in Horton Foote's
"Young Man From Atlanta", and "Measure For Measure" at Lincoln Center.
Off-Broadway, Marcus has appeared in numerous shows at MTC, The Lambs
and WPA. Regionally, he has worked at The Guthrie, Seattle Rep., Yale
Rep., Long Wharf, over 20 productions at The Williamstown Theater
Festival, Hartford Stage, New Jersey Shakespeare Festival, The Goodman,
and The Eugene O'Neill Playwrights Conference. He is the older brother of Paul Giamatti.
Donald Gibb (as Don Gibb) as Jeeters: Massive
(6' 4"), muscular behemoth Donald Richard Gibb was born on August 4,
1954, in New York City, New York and raised in California. He attended
the University of New Mexico on a basketball scholarship, then
transferred to the University of San Diego, where he played football
and was a member of the varsity basketball team. He had a roster spot
on the San Diego Chargers prior to embarking on an acting career. With
his brawn, bulk, scraggly beard and mustache, deep, growly voice and
forceful screen presence, Gibb has frequently been cast as scruffy
bikers, loutish rednecks and over-aggressive macho athletes. He started
out in movies in the early 1980s with uncredited bit parts in Any Which
Way You Can (1980), Stripes (1981), and Conan the Barbarian (1982). He
achieved enduring cult fame as the outrageous Ogre in the hilarious
Revenge of the Nerds (1984), reprising this role in the second and
fourth sequels. He was likewise memorable as raucous martial arts
fighter Ray Jackson in the exciting Bloodsport (1988) and wildman
tennis player Ripper in the amusing Jocks (1984). He had a recurring
role as fierce defensive lineman Leslie "Dr. Death" Crunchner on the
HBO situation comedy 1st & Ten (1984). Among the television series
Donald has done guest spots on are Alice (1976), The A-Team (1983),
Magnum, P.I. (1980), Knight Rider (1982), The Facts of Life (1979),
Hunter (1984), Night Court (1984), MacGyver (1985), Quantum Leap
(1989), The X-Files (1993) and The Young and the Restless (1973).
Donald Gibb lives in Chicago, Illinois and is the co-owner of and
spokesman for the Chicago karaoke bar Trader Todd's.
Barbara Tarbuck as Esther: Trained
on a Fulbright Grant to the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art,
Barbara's New York theatre work includes "Landscape & Silence" by
Harold Pinter, "Water Engine" by David Mamet, Neil Simon's "Brighton
Beach Memoirs" and "Broadway Bound", Joseph Chaikin's production of
"America Hurrah!", and "Enter The Night" by Maria Irene Fornes. Recent
regional standouts include "Long Days Journey Into Night" at Dallas
Theatre Center, "Death of a Salesman" at San Diego Repertory, "The
Cripple Of Inishman" at the Geffen, "Wonderful World" at Laguna
Playhouse, "Six Characters in Search of an Author" at Williamstown, and
"Blue Window" and "Sidney Bechet Killed a Man" at South Coast
Repertory. Favorite screen roles: the woman with 12 dogs on ER (1994),
the aged mother on Cold Case (2003) who comes to terms with her
murdered son's homosexuality, Dwayne Johnson's mother in Walking Tall
(2004), and Kevin McKidd's mother on Journeyman (2007).
Dr. Laura Schlessinger as Herself: As
one of the most popular talk show hosts in radio history, Dr. Laura
Schlessinger offers no-nonsense advice infused with a strong sense of
ethics, accountability, and personal responsibility; she's been doing
it successfully for more than 30 years, reaching approximately 8.25
million listeners weekly. Her internationally syndicated radio program
is also heard on XM Satellite Radio, CelleCast, and is streamed on the
Internet and podcast via StreamLink. She's a best selling author of
eleven adult books and four children's books, which range from the
provocative (New York Times chart topper "The Proper Care and Feeding
of Husbands") to the poignant (children's book title "Why Do You Love
Me?"). Her support of children and family values is legendary, and she
is, indeed, "her kid's mom." She writes a monthly column for NewsMax, a
twice-weekly column for The Santa Barbara News-Press, and a daily blog.
She has received an award from the Office of the Secretary of Defense
for her Exceptional Public Service, and among her numerous other
honors, has been the first and only woman ever to win the National
Association of Broadcasters' prestigious Marconi Award for
Network/Syndicated Personality. In addition, Dr. Laura holds multiple
trophies for sailboat racing, and is a Black Belt in martial arts. In
the last several years, she has designed and handcrafted elegant
jewelry for charitable causes, most recently for Operation Family Fund,
which provides financial assistance to families of military personnel
severely injured or killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. She has raised over
$1 million for Operation Family Fund from the sale of her jewelry on
her website, and from the proceeds from her 2007 Birthday Bash. Her
eleventh and newest book, "Stop Whining, Start Living" was released by
HarperCollins in March, 2008, and became an instant New York Times
bestseller. Several years after this episode aired, Dr. Schlessinger
went on record as saying that homosexuality was a biological “error”, a
statement that would no doubt have prevented her from being invited on
such a liberal show as Quantum Leap.
Charles Dougherty as Man
with Glasses: Charles
Dougherty is known for Alice in Wonderland (1985), Bones (2005) and
Quantum Leap (1989). He has been married to Mary Lou Belli since 1982.
They have two children.
Dennis Fimple as Red
Norton: Excellent
and engaging character actor Dennis Fimple was born 11 November, 1940,
in Ventura, California and raised in the nearby town of Taft. His
father, Elmer was an electrician, and his mother, Dolly was a
beautician. Dennis first became interested in acting after he portrayed
Tom Sawyer in a junior high school play. After graduating Taft Union
High School, Fimple attended San Jose College on a scholarship, and
majored in both speech and drama. He also earned a teaching credential
at San Jose College. Dennis worked in a Cheetos factory by day and
acted in dinner theater at night in his early days. Fimple eventually
moved to Hollywood, where he initially worked as a teacher by day and a
delivery man at night, prior to getting his first break; a 2-episode
guest appearance on Petticoat Junction (1963). Best known as the
lovably dim-witted Kyle Murty on the comedy Western television program,
Alias Smith and Jones (1971), Dennis popped up in many TV series
throughout the years including; Here Come the Brides (1968), M*A*S*H
(1972), The Rockford Files (1974), Starsky and Hutch (1975), Battlestar
Galactica (1978), The Dukes of Hazzard (1979), Matt Houston (1982),
Highway to Heaven (1984), Knight Rider (1982), The A-Team (1983), The
Incredible Hulk (1977),Simon & Simon (1981), Sledge Hammer! (1986),
Quantum Leap (1989) Sabrina the Teenage Witch (1996) and ER (1994).
Fimple was frequently cast as scruffy rural types in both films and TV
shows alike. Among his most memorable movie roles are the amiable Curly
in the delightful Claudia Jennings' drive-in classic, Truck Stop Women
(1974), easygoing moonshine runner Dewey Crenshaw in Bootleggers
(1974), likable eager beaver college anthropology student Pahoo, in the
terrific Sasquatch cinema outing Creature from Black Lake (1976), the
goofy Sunfish in the much-maligned King Kong (1976) remake, and
cloddish fur trapper, Posey in the superior horror-Western The Shadow
of Chikara (1977). His last film part was as the madcap Grandpa Hugo
Firefly in Rob Zombie's enjoyably trashy 70's horror exploitation
pastiche, House of 1000 Corpses (2003). Dennis was not only an avid
reader, but also a lover of antiques and collectibles. He's the father
of son Chris. Dennis Fimple died at age 61, of complications from a car
accident at his home in Frazier Park, California on August 23, 2002.
Victor Talmadge as Foreman/Hank: Victor
(Vee) Talmadge is an accomplished actor, director, and playwright. He
received a B.A. from Cornell in 1977 and his M.F.A. from the California
Institute of the Arts in 1980. Throughout his ten years in New York,
Mr. Talmadge was involved in numerous activities, besides acting
extensively off-Broadway and regionally in established modern and
classic pieces, he collaborated on new projects with playwrights Robert
Schenken, Jeff Jones, and Shelby Brammer. He co-founded and served as
Literary Director for the award-winning New York theater company,
Empire Stage Players. It was during this period that Mr. Talmadge's
one-act play, Kiss Goodbye the Howling Beast, was a finalist at the
Actors Theatre of Louisville Short Play Competition. Mr. Talmadge
taught playwriting for Johns Hopkins University and served as Adjunct
Assistant Professor of English for City University of New York. With
Bay Area playwright/actor, Lane Nishikawa, he recently completed The
Gate of Heaven, a play about a 442nd (Japanese American) soldier who
liberates a Jewish prisoner from Dachau Concentration Camp in Germany
during World War II. Mr. Talmadge has acted at Berkeley Repertory
Theatre, American Conservatory Theatre and the Magic Theatre in San
Francisco. He has directed at the Bay Area Playwrights Festival and has
guest starred in a number of television and film projects.
Sherri Lynn Rothman as Dawn: Sherri Lynn Rothman is known for Quantum Leap (1989) and Who's the Boss? (1984).
Gregg Binkley as Deputy: Gregg
has worked steadily in film and television for over 30 years. He has
played roles in films directed by Mel Brooks, Clint Eastwood, the Coen
Brothers, and Woody Allen. He was first discovered while waiting tables
in character at the popular Beverly Hills 50's-themed diner, Ed
Debevics where he worked as the "security guard" Barney Fife. Rick Dees
saw him there and put him on his late night show on ABC, Into the Night
with Rick Dees. Gregg was a series regular for the one year run of the
show. He later went on to star as Harold Skolnick in the films Revenge
of the Nerds 3 and 4. Soon after, Gregg was cast as "Dan the Del Taco
Guy" in the very successful advertising campaign that lasted six years
and covered 58 television commercials and many more radio spots and
personal appearances. During that time Gregg also portrayed Don Knotts
in the NBC movie of week Behind the Scenes of Three's Company. Later,
he was cast as Kenny James in the Emmy award winning pilot episode of
the NBC hit show My Name is Earl. Gregg went on to portray Kenny in 20
episodes during the four year run of the show. Two years later he was
cast as a series regular on the hit show, Raising Hope on Fox. Gregg
played the grocery store manager Barney Hughes in 71 episodes during
the four year run of the show. More recently, Gregg has directed shows
for Pure Flix including Hitting the Breaks, Malibu Dan and The
Beverlys. His recent acting credits include guest starring roles on
NCIS: Los Angeles, Young Sheldon and NCIS. In 2017 he founded Gregg
Binkley's "Working Actors Workshop." In 2024 he released the
inspirational book GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER: Finding Success in Acting and
Life, which has been endorsed by many Emmy award winners including
Bryan Cranston, Greg Garcia and Eric Stonestreet. Gregg lives in Los
Angeles with his wife and three children.
Paul-Felix Montez as Ernesto: Paul-Felix Montez is known for State of Grace (1990), Quantum Leap (1989) and Frankenhooker (1990).
Andrew Roa as Roberto Gutierrez (Leapee on studio camera): Andrew Roa is known for Picking Up the Pieces (2000), If (2003) and Quantum Leap (1989).
"Dailies" from the set:
Say
What? The second hand on the newsroom clock is frozen.
The issue of World Weekly on the set shows Jeffrey Dahmer, who was
not known publicly until 1991.
Rick’s ID badge doesn't have a barcode.
How can he enter the secret room?
When they leave the plant, Al seems to relocate to a different area without explanation and without a sound effect.
Sam types a much different code into the
computer than the hack code Al reads out to him.
When Roberto is shown on the monitor at the end, we hear Sam's voice instead of Roberto's.
Quotable Quotes:
Sam: "Uhhh, I was just wondering if French imported wine goes with
crow."
Sam: "I guess I kinda see myself as champion of underdogs everywhere."
Al: "That's the key! You look for a door that's got a slot next to
it."
... "Just like the beginning of the Quantum Leap project, remember?
This credit card thing, you stick it in the slot, opens the door.
Before we had those electronic implants, remember, Sam?"
Al: "A lot of the guys in this place are military-itis!"
Jenny: "Why do I suddenly feel like I've stepped behind you? I never
used to feel that way."
Sam: "Well, I dunno... I, uh..."
Al: "Yeah, it's annoying, isn't it? That's what you get working with a
genius."
Best Line:
Al: "Yeah, it's annoying, isn't it? That's what you get working with
a genius."
Best Scene:
I think the best scene is the interview at the end with Mr. Saxton. Sam
came up with an ingenius way to reveal his crimes.
Synopsis & Review:
Sam
leaps into the body of Roberto Gutierrez (leapee played by Andrew Roa),
a Geraldo Rivera-inspired talk-show host who works with his co-worker
to unmask a local fertilizer and pesticide plant that is researching
and producing chemical weapons.
Roberto
is the host of the aptly named show, "Roberto!" a local TV talk show
that specializes in sensationalisitc stories. His friendly wager with a
reporter at the station, Jani Eisengerg (DeLane Matthews), that he can
do serious reporting as much as anyone takes a dangerous turn when they
visit a new plant being built in the area.
Roberto thinks that he should be doing the story about UFOs and aliens
that was called into the station but he soon realizes that there is
something sinister going on at the plant. When an informant is killed,
they manage to use his pass to get into a secret area and learn why
aliens have been seen and sheep have been disappearing. Sam tricks the
plant manager into appearing on his show to nab him. Source
Personal Review by MikeKraken:
It's the early 1980s, and day-time talk shows are just beginning in
their popularity. Sam leaps into the host of "Roberto!", and he has
more to do than just be the "local sort-of version of Geraldo".
This is definitely one of my favourites. "Roberto!" has a great mix of
comedy and mystery, not to mention the acting is superbly executed from
the excellent script. I enjoyed the insight to earlier days of Project
Quantum Leap, and it was interesting to see Sam acting like Roberto
when necessary.
Production Credits:
Theme by: Mike Post Music by: Velton Ray Bunch Co-Executive Producer: Deborah Pratt Co-Executive Producer: Michael Zinberg Supervising Producer: Harker Wade Produced by: Jeff Gourson, Tommy Thompson Produced by: Chris Ruppenthal, Paul Brown Created by: Donald P. Bellisario Written by:Chris Ruppenthal Directed by:Scott Bakula Executive Producer: Donald P. Bellisario Associate Producers:James S. Giritlian, Julie Bellisario Coordinating Producer: David Bellisario Director of Photography: Michael Watkins, A.S.C. Production Designer: Cameron Birnie Edited by: M. Edward Salier A.C.E. Unit Production Manager: Ron Grow First Assistant Director: Ryan Gordon Second Assistant Director: Kate Yurka Casting by: Ellen Lubin Sanitsky Set Director: Robert L. Zilliox Costume Designer: Jean-Pierre Dorleac Costume Supervisor: David Rawley Art Director: Ellen Dambros-Williams Sound Mixer: Barry D. Thomas Stunt Coordinator: Diamond Farnsworth Sound Editor: Greg Schorer Music Editor: Bruce Frazier Special Visual Effects: Roger Dorney, Denny Kelly
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Quantum Leap Podcast: Roberto!
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Rejoice friends of fruits and veggies! It’s time for ROBERTO!
Join hosts Allison Pregler, Matt Dale and Christopher DeFilippis in the
studio audience to witness Sam’s Leap into an outrageous daytime talk
show host who uncovers a dark secret in a New Mexico town.
Also, Matt talks about cannibalism.
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