The mysterious leaper

[Spartan83]

Originally Posted by Midnight Marauder

Nothing there about Evil QL being any better at hiding their leapers. Or improving.

I quoted you talking about Ziggy and Al detecting them later, and said the assumption was that "they" meaning Ziggy/Al may have gotten better at detecting the other leapers after the first encounter.

Either way, it's clear to me now that Evil QL wouldn't be hiding from stuff/ppl they do don't know anything about. As in, Sam. So the whole idea is moot.

That's right, as I said from the beginning, evil QL does not shield from Sam specifically at any point in their encounters.

[Sam Beckett Fan]

I thought for a moment that this leaper could be Sam as well, but he sounded too hostile, and tonight's episode has identified him as a new character, still a leaper-to-be in Ben's present, it seems.

A relation to the evil leapers is plausible but I'm not a fan of the notion even though I had grown somewhat fond of the evil leapers but whatever the case I am worried about what this is.
With the project, the leaps and the Janice side plot I feel like this is unnecessary and distasteful clutter.

[Spartan83]

This new episode still left so many questions regarding Leaper X, realistically it couldnt' be solved in a day so they left it open to revisit down the line.

The original Evil leapers were always ambiguous but not new to QL. One thing that bugged me was didn't the new QL team read the saved files by the original team of Sam's Leaps ? Surely an entry of the Evil organisation and the evil AI unit L.O.T.H.O.S was logged and Magic and Jen would have been aware of them.

[Sam Beckett Fan]

Originally Posted by Spartan83

The original Evil leapers were always ambiguous but not new to QL. One thing that bugged me was didn't the new QL team read the saved files by the original team of Sam's Leaps ? Surely an entry of the Evil organisation and the evil AI unit L.O.T.H.O.S was logged and Magic and Jen would have been aware of them.

I would think so despite that all the information that had been accumulated was a couple of first names and the name of their AI and that based on evidence the evil project didn't even exist at the time.

The best explanation I can come up with for how the evil leapers are not in the records is that the original project didn't place as much significance on Sam encountering another leaper as this team is, which is a bit understandable since Leaper X/Martinez unlike Alia directly called Ben out by his real name.

See this is one reason the original would have benefited from more time spent on the project's end. We never have any idea how the rest of the team had regarded the evil leapers.

[Spartan83]

Originally Posted by Sam Beckett Fan

The best explanation I can come up with for how the evil leapers are not in the records is that the original project didn't place as much significance on Sam encountering another leaper as this team is, which is a bit understandable since Leaper X/Martinez unlike Alia directly called Ben out by his real name.

The only example I can think of in relation to the QL team logging records of leaps is the example of Magic, if you recall the discussion with Ian on the bench.
Ian asked Magic what was his original history and Magic answered he was K.I.A. I guess he would only know that if the QL team had logged a file of Sam's leap.

It's safe to say the old Ziggy would have detailed files/records of Sam's encounters I.e Down syndrome Jimmy x 2 where Al kept saying "in the original history Jimmy and Connie blah blah blah". Do you remember "Honeymoon Express" where Al reels off to the committee examples of Sam leaps ( I assume were recorded). I'm sure an encounter with a sinister organisation that would have been trying to kill Sam through time would surely have been recorded too.

That's why I was a little surprised a name wasn't referenced from the old specs of project QL files when they mothballed the project and rebuilt it in L.A.

A shame that 6th season never explored further the Evil QL project.

[Sam Beckett Fan]

My best friend came up with a fantastic theory as to the reason there seem to be no records of the evil project, that perhaps Lothos hacked Ziggy and erased it from the database.

As for Leaper X, now he's been found in 2022 quite clearly not leaping, I hope he'll be sidelined for a while and the secondary focus turned back to Janice which the Halloween episode suggested was promising.

[Spartan83]

Originally Posted by Sam Beckett Fan

My best friend came up with a fantastic theory as to the reason there seem to be no records of the evil project, that perhaps Lothos hacked Ziggy and erased it from the database.

As for Leaper X, now he's been found in 2022 quite clearly not leaping, I hope he'll be sidelined for a while and the secondary focus turned back to Janice which the Halloween episode suggested was promising.

There seems to be many side plots happening throughout and we're only 7 episodes in lol i.e Janis , congresswoman Adani, leaper X, Ben's path when leaping etc.

I feel they need to temper that down and focus on just 1 or 2 so it doesn't get too bewildering.

[NewFederalist]

There seems to be many side plots happening throughout and we're only 7 episodes in lol i.e Janis , congresswoman Adani, leaper X, Ben's path when leaping etc.

I feel they need to temper that down and focus on just 1 or 2 so it doesn't get too bewildering.


I heartily agree!

[Spartan83]

Originally Posted by NewFederalist

There seems to be many side plots happening throughout and we're only 7 episodes in lol i.e Janis , congresswoman Adani, leaper X, Ben's path when leaping etc.

I feel they need to temper that down and focus on just 1 or 2 so it doesn't get too bewildering.


I heartily agree!

Less is more and makes for a better story telling experience.

[black_jack]

Hello I am new to the forums and a new fan.
The new show got me interested in the original and have seen a few episodes of the original series.


I have a theory about Leaper X
Leaper X isnt Sam Beckett but Sam Beckett is involved in the present storyline.



First Leaper X isnt evil simply misguided. I think Martinez (Leaper X) is a true believer which can cause more problems because true believers some times justify whatever action they do as right because they believe their cause is just.



In episode 8, Ben revealed he is trying to leap to save Addison.



My theory is Addison Leaped and she failed in the future and was killed.



The government takes over the QL project after Ben's team and they send Leapers to change the past to prevent disasters and terrorist attacks but while in the short term this seems to do good it causes more problems in the Future.


In the original series episode I think Season 2 episode 1 Honeymoon Express, Al is in a congressional hearing trying to justify QL funding to get Sam back home in order to sway the committee so he promises to get Sam to use the Leap to avoid embarrassment that inflamed cold war tensions. The plan failed.


Sam chose help a law student pass the Bar. After passing the bar she when on to morphed mid sentence to become the chair of the committee and rule in Al's favor.


Sam Beckett leaped back in time to get help from Ben Song

[Sam Beckett Fan]

Originally Posted by Spartan83

There seems to be many side plots happening throughout and we're only 7 episodes in lol i.e Janis , congresswoman Adani, leaper X, Ben's path when leaping etc.

I feel they need to temper that down and focus on just 1 or 2 so it doesn't get too bewildering.

I've said it before, but I concur.
The Janis side plot is a brilliant dual service as both a nod to the original series and related to Ben's motive and his changes to the rules.

This whole Leaper X thing didn't just muddle the focus, but I believe it is entirely unnecessary. Fortunately, now that he's been identified and found NOT leaping in 2022, they seemed to have sidelined it as less of a priority.

[Spartan83]

Originally Posted by Sam Beckett Fan

I've said it before, but I concur.
The Janis side plot is a brilliant dual service as both a nod to the original series and related to Ben's motive and his changes to the rules.

This whole Leaper X thing didn't just muddle the focus, but I believe it is entirely unnecessary. Fortunately, now that he's been identified and found NOT leaping in 2022, they seemed to have sidelined it as less of a priority.

Agreed!

They seem to be trying toooo hard to justify each episode ending it on a cliffhanger ( a new story arc) which affects the HQ QL team more rather than Ben leaping through time, explains why some fans have yet to take to Ben the leaper.

What OG Quantum Leap did so well was invest the viewer solely and simply on Sams leap, we knew the aim of the mission, to get him home. It was well written and acted by two legendary leads in Scott and Dean and had none of this muddying of the water and focus taken away the episodes with HQ affairs.

It's all becoming too convoluted.

[feldon30]

I'd rather they did it like X-Files where there are monster-of-the-week episodes and conspiracy episodes. Let's have a bottle episode of Nanrisa Lee and Magic about the project while Ben is on a mundane leap. Let's have a super heavy leap that doesn't show the Project at all. Mix and match.